In this episode you hear scientist Laure-Emmanuelle Perret-Aebi in conversation with Janne and Bart. Trained as a theoretical chemist she turned to applied science working for EPFL and CSEM (Switzerland) in the field of photovoltaics. As such, she contributed to the Solar Impulse project (Bertrand Picard) and to improving the aesthetics of solar panels for building integration ”so that people would start to love it too”.